How much lower can you get a car dealer on a $25,000 vehicle?

The best trick I have learned is to either pay cash or get your finance sorted out beforehand with another lender. Most dealers have their own lending arrangements set up to offer finance to sell the car and they make a fortune out of the interest rate as that is their commission so make like you are going to use their finance and they will let you go a bit lower then when you agree on the price come forth with the money, the old story about cheaper for cash isn't always true in today's credit depending society.